The Making of the Gap Girls
This podcast was a long time coming. For at least 3 years, Tubby and I said we should turn our phone conversations into a podcast. It’s not that we thought we were all that, it was because we were constantly having conversations about aging, parenting, and everything in between and wondering is everyone else having these conversations? Why aren’t there more people talking about what really goes on in life and how heartbreaking or humorous or unbelievable it can be. I mean, we would dive into subjects and share the most intimate thoughts without any judgement. We both have a lot of anxieties and the relief to talk incessantly about our latest worries was so soothing to each other.
We met working at Gap Inc corporate headquarters in San Francisco more than 26 years ago. I had moved from New York City and had worked in the stores. It was a big change to be in corporate life. I was eager to make friends as I had only knew of a few people from NYC that had moved to corporate but wasn’t close with them. I remember seeing Tubby around and thinking she was aloof because she was so beautiful and quiet. As it turns out, she is slightly introverted, quirky, super inclusive, and one of the funniest and nicest people I know. I’m so glad I was wrong and shame on me for judging. We’ve been through a lot together from our marriages, death of parents, cancer, kids and all that brings, and watching the tragic news of 9/11 at a restaurant. Our nicknames BT (AKA Deb) and Tubby (AKA Barb) originate from Barb’s husband which is a story for another day.
As we’ve gotten older, we have been navigating the journey that goes along with aging from our bodies that don’t respond to our discipline anymore to the freedom of not giving a crap nearly as much about external opinions. At the same time, our kids are in high school and college and we are all preparing ourselves for the next chapter of our lives. When we finally launched in March 2023, we officially took our therapy session to The Gap Girls Podcast.
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